Tuesday, February 15, 2011

tuesday feb 15th

Just had a nice freewrite in my notebook. The anxiety has been named, listened to, loved, calmed a bit. Back to the spirit of adventure/ research. I made a flow chart, wanted to distill what I'm learning. i'll make it clear as i read, etc. fill it in. then i should make an alternatives list. are there other ways to live mortgage free?

So, now i'm doing a web search for a few hours.

"Mortgage free" reminded me of yurts, even the ones that are less than 25k. And also reminded me that buying a multifam and renting out is not unthinkable. It might be that this first homestead is not my dream one, but maybe the second one would be b/c i could sell first and have more money...

"inexpensive ways to build house"

"modular houses" foreclosed one?

"prefab homes hip cheap" what is up with shipping containers

"greenprefab houses" this hit a jackpot, i like this woman copeland. i've come across her before. she details all the expenses. she used an sip?

http://www.greenmodernkits.com/c3.htm
  • casa ti kit house: $22,537.91 for a 1,200 s.f. kickin' modern house kit.
  • shipping: $1450 per truck to get from northern to central Virginia
  • engineered drawings (gears kit documents for local zoning): $1,910.00
  • poured concrete foundation: $4,886.70
  • concrete finisher (prevents cracking, contractor swears by it) $910.00
  • foam that goes under and around the foundation: $1034.68 (This is important! Why get an energy efficient house kit with insulated roof and walls if you don't also insulate below/around the foundation? You can order this foam from the factory if you like.)
  • Mike's plumbing and Heating: (they laid the radiant tubes, plumbing in foundation) $3,450.00
  • Interior Wall Finishing: sheet rock: $4,000 --> We eliminated drywall.
    Wellz, folks... this will be a combination of the contractor building interior walls with plywood, *while* lining the interior of the SIPs with... VMI's BASKETBALL COURT! 'Cause you know I'm all about reuse, and history. *That* cost (oh, by the way, did I mention I acquired that historic solid maple flooring for about $1 per sq. ft?) will also be offset by the fact that I'm going to auction off the VMI logo on ebay... which might just end up paying for it all.


    We paid $1,015 for labor so far to have Bobbie, our carpenter, cover the bedroom / hall walls yet leaving one side open so that we can come in with the electrician and plumber for systems when we're ready later this year. So more work does need to be done. Note the materials used were the VMI basketball court, and purchased interior doors (about $100 apiece). We also paid Ron our contractor to frame the interior walls, which is in his costs.
  • EXTERIOR lumber and framing lumber for the load bearing INTERIOR wall $4,294.40
  • Interior walls: $2,200 --> This was the original estimate, it was later accounted for in both Ron, our contractor's costs + in our case the contractor chose to do the framing himself and therefore we don't count this towards the total.
  • Phase 1 LABOR for putting house kit together / exterior framing / interior load wall framing (i.e. Phase 1 of getting the house kit weatherproof. Phase 2 is labor for putting on cladding, Phase 3 is finishing the interior) $4,484
  • Phase 2 LABOR for installing cladding: $9,610
  • wiring: $5,700 Our current quote from the electrician is $3,600 for the solar installation and $6,300 for wiring. Note this wiring is for SOLAR, and takes DC wiring into account. If you are going to be ON the grid it will be a different scenario.
  • windows: $8,071
    Original quote: $9,051.39:
    I waited until they had a 20% off sale to place my order, made some adjustments to the door, and hence my costs were: $7,689 + $59 delivery charge + $368ish tax: see the post "Get Yer Windows" for details on how to save money and bring the price down!
  • plumbing: $4,500 (Actually I think this was Mike's Plumbing costs, above, for which we were already invoiced $3,500 to install in the foundation AND radiant loops / tubing- part of the plumbing has already happened and we now need to just finish it / hook up systems.)
  • Roofing: Roofing labor to install membrane, etc. : $2,118
  • Lowe's (I have no idea, but it's on the contractor's cost sheet so there ya go!) $196.35
  • Equipment rental for a light trailer $87.12
  • contractor: $6,021.66 for phase 1-2, plus 10% on SIPs, siding, windows/doors = 3,880 --> $9,901.66 (as of February 14th, 2009, now we have to finish interior. Estimate to do interior walls is $1,200 but that does not include systems installation.).
  • roof / membrane / one green roof / cladding decisions: We're using Galvalume, we are not adding the green roof (although you certainly can on the north side of the casa ti, that was in David Day's original idea) because we are using that for rainwater collection.

    Supa-Cool Siding/Roof Mod Package! $8,776.11
    Shipping for super cool siding package: $268
  • Heat / Energy Recovery Ventilators: Don't you dare let me hear you don't have 'em installed. We recommend two manufacturers, depending on your needs, in the $700-$1,800 range.
  • Zero Energy Off Grid Systems: Depending on YOUR power needs and climate and which vendor you choose, this will vary widely. We are happy to share with you what we chose, but this is something outside of the "house kit" scope.

    Now here are some costs that are not really directly related to the house kit / building a house but I wanted to include:

    1. Excavation and seeding: Anonymous below asked about site costs: Good point, totally did not include that. Fortunately, when we bought our land it was... exactly as it is, except for excavation of the site- so we did not have to cut down a single tree, yet have a super south view! We situated our house at the end of the pre-existing field. Costs for excavation *and* seeding: $1,200.
    2. Perc Test (soil consulting) $600
    3. Board of Health Permit $190
    4. Building Permit $82.07
    5. Contractor going up to the factory to be trained on SIP: $194.39
    6. Driver tip for SIP delivery because we're nice and in a rural area and they went above and beyond their call of duty $80
    7. well / rainwater collection: still working on it, looking to be around $8,000
    8. solar / solar heat / batteries, etc. / radiant heat (I will go into this in depth later):
      PEX tubing for radiant heat:
      $670.50
      Solar systems: $11,594.00Note: this is a gentle, minimal solar system to get us through the coming years as we expect off grid technology to advance for the prefab, as well as that we embrace changing our energy expectations of usage to be less, challenging ourselves to do more, thinking strategically about power usage vs. having mass systems.

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